• Iwaszkiewicz on Górecki
Wednesday, 1 February 2012 6 Comments
The recently published third and final volume of diaries by the Polish poet, playwright and novelist Jarosław Iwaszkiewicz (Warsaw: Czytelnik, 2011) has brought to light some interesting comments on music. Despite showing intense bitterness and self-absorption on political matters (he had, to say the least, a controversial history of working with the communist establishment since 1945), Iwaszkiewicz (1894-1980) had some keen insights on cultural matters. His background in music went back to his early years when, as Szymanowski’s younger cousin, he not only suggested the idea for and wrote the libretto of King Roger (1918-24) but also provided Szymanowski with translations of Rabindranath Tagore for the Four Songs and his own poems for Songs of an Infatuated Muezzin, both written in 1918. He also provided the verse for Szymanowski’s Three Lullabies (1922).
Here are three diary entries which have been drawn to my attention by a friend in Warsaw, who also kindly provided the translations. The first, from 1966, is a tart nostalgia for the musical past. The second (1969) and third (1977) entries contain somewhat surprising observations on two pieces by Henryk Mikołaj Górecki, who was the only Polish composer to whom Iwaszkiewicz paid any detailed attention in these diaries. I’ve added some contextual information to two of the three entries.
8 August 1966
W radio ostatni obraz Harnasi i Infantka Ravela. Wierzyć się nie chce, że oni byli, żywi, prawdziwi, dotykalni. Karol! Ravel! Co za postaci półpowieściowe, nieuchwytne, niewyobrażalne. Czy rzeczywiście nie ma już takich ludzi? Czy tylko mi się wydaje, bo jestem stary i zmęczony, i nie widzę, co mam pod bokiem. Lutosławski? Penderecki? Mój Boże, chyba tego nie można porównać. Może w ogóle teraz nie ma artystów. Może tamci jako ‘artyści’ naprawdę należeli do XIX wieku? Jak Chopin, jak Liszt?
On the radio, the last scene of Harnasie and Ravel’s Infante. I do not want to believe that they were here, living, real, tangible. Karol! Ravel! What characters, half taken from a novel, elusive, unimaginable. Are there really no such people any more? Or is it only my impression, because I am old and tired and do not see what I have close at hand. Lutosławski? Penderecki? My God, surely one cannot make any comparison. Perhaps there are no artists at all now. Perhaps those men, as ‘artists’, truly belonged to the 19th century? Like Chopin, like Liszt?
24 September 1969
Taka cudowna noc dzisiaj księżycowa. I pomyśleć, nie mam nikogo, z kim bym mógł wyjść na spacer po ogrodzie. Hania° nie wychodzi nigdy do ogrodu, zwłaszcza po zachodzie słońca. Wysłuchałem tylko co Muzyki staropolskiej Góreckiego.* Monotonne to, ale bardzo ‘wielkie’. O szerokim oddechu, prymitywne, z puszczą, z wiatrem, z mordem. Nic z lukrowanego obrazka a la Wołodyjowski.† Chyba taka Polska jest prawdziwa.
Such a wonderful moonlit night tonight. And to think that I have no one with whom I could go for a walk in the garden. Hania° never goes out into the garden, especially after sunset. I have just listened to Gorecki’s Old Polish Music.* Monotonous this, but very ‘great’. Broadly breathed, primitive, with a primeval forest, with wind, with murder. Nothing like the sentimental picture-book that is Wołodyjowski.† Such is perhaps the true Poland.
° Iwaszkiewicz’s wife, Anna
* This must have been the live broadcast on Polish Radio of the world premiere, given by the National Philharmonic SO, conducted by Andrzej Markowski, as part of the 12th ‘Warsaw Autumn’ International Festival of Contemporary Music.
† Wołodyjowski: a reference to a recent feature film Pan Wołodyjowski (Jerzy Hoffman, 1969) which was based on Henryk Sienkiewicz’s historical novel of the same name (1888).
8 September 1977
Iwaszkiewicz gave the opening paper at a conference of musicologists and musicians at Baranów, 4-12 September 1977. He made this diary entry after the delegates had listened on 7 September to a recording of Górecki’s Third Symphony ‘Symphony of Sorrowful Songs’ (1976). This must have been a tape of the world premiere given in Royan five months earlier as the piece had not yet been performed in Poland (it was given its Polish premiere at the ‘Warsaw Autumn’ on 25 September 1977).
[…] tak od czasu do czasu wpisywać jakieś laments daje fałszywe wyobrażenie o całym continuum wewnętrznym, które wcale nie składa się wyłącznie z lamentów. Nie jest też tym continuum przerażającym, jakie wczoraj zaprezentował Górecki w swojej III Symfonii. Beznadziejny powrót tego samego akordu w pierwszej części symfonii sprawia wrażenie psychopatyczne, maniakalne, a jednak wstrząsające – właśnie jako continuum wewnętrznego, czegoś bardzo głębokiego i tragicznego jakby w założeniu, bez dramatycznych zawołań, bez żadnego ‘teatru dla siebie’. To bardzo dziwny i niepokojący utwór.
[...] writing down from time to time laments of some kind gives a false impression of the whole internal continuum, which does not at all consist solely of laments. Nor is it a terrifying continuum, of the kind presented yesterday by Gorecki in his Third Symphony. The hopeless return of the same chord in the first movement of the symphony makes a psychopathic, maniacal, and yet shocking impression – exactly like an inner continuum, something very deep and almost tragic in its assumption, without dramatic calls, without any ‘theatre for theatre’s sake’. A very strange and unsettling piece.


Hello Professor Thomas, greetings from Australia!
I hadn’t realised the last volume had already been published, I’ll have to order myself a copy. It reminds me of a number of statements from Iwaszkiewicz’s other writings contained in ‘Dziedzictwo Chopina I szkice muzyczne’ published in 2010 through PIW – from which I’ve translated (hopefully legitimately) an example, in order to contribute something academic to the discussion…
Cheers
William
‘Po drugie, nie lubię samozachwycenia. Mamy po temu wiele przykładów, ale pozostańmy przy Ochlewskim. Pisze on: „Muzyka polska chwali się 3 poematami Witolda Lutosławskiego, największym dziełem muzycznym od czasów Chopina.” Wolałbym, aby Ochlewski poczekał trochę z tak obowiązującymi sądami. Niedługo. Lat parę. Pasowanie współczesnych na geniuszy jest rzeczą niebiezpieczą, chociażby nawet (jak w wypadku Lutosławskiego) miało się ochotę użyć tego słowa. A przy tym trzeba pamiętać, że i Chopina miał swoje Bolero.’ (p.300)
[Secondly, I don’t like self-enrapture. We’ve many examples like this, but let’s stay with Ochlewski. He writes: „Polish music can pride itself on the 3 Poems [of Henri Michaux] by Witold Lutosławski, the greatest musical work since the time of Chopin”. I would have preferred that Ochlewski had just waited a little with such binding judgements. Not long. A couple of years. To acknowledge one’s contemporaries as geniuses is a dangerous thing, even if (as in Lutosławski’s case) one might feel like using this word. For at the same time it should always be remembered, that even Chopin had his Bolero.]
Apologies for the automatic and unwonted spell-check in my first reply. The penultimate word should, of course, have been blogspot … And the reply omitted the url for your blog on Polish publishing. I’ll try again here, but will just give the main site address: drwilliamhughes.blogspot.com. Fingers crossed.
Ah, I’ve found the button! Looking forward to more on Szymanowski, Bill Evans, …
Iwaszkiewicz’s original article is ’Ze świata muzyki’, first published in ‘Życie Warszawy’, 1965, nr.51. The context of his article concerns a few disagreements (he uses the word ‘koty’ – „not black, but for the moment grey”) he has had recently with PWM. Iwaszkiewicz himself mentions the source of his citations as the January 1965 edition of PWM’s ‘Informator’, in particular Ochlewski’s article ’Satysfakcje i zmartwienia’.
I’ll try to get some more Szymanowski materials up soon, assuming I can find some time for scanning – as it’s the 75th anniversary of his death in late March, I might aim for a commemorative posting…
Cheers
William
Thanks for writing, William! That’s a very interesting passage from Iwaszkiewicz: thank you for sharing it. Do you know its date and source, as well as those for Tadeusz Ochlewski’s original statement?
There’s an interesting parallel in An Outline History of Polish Music (Warsaw: Interpress, 1979), which Ochlewski edited but did not contribute to. Grzegorz Michalski wrote on p.180: ‘Preludes and Fugue has led a number of critics to suggest that Witold Lutosławski is the greatest Polish composer since Chopin’.
Penderecki allegedly said something similar of Lutosławski when he died in 1994. I often feel that for some observers Szymanowski simply does not exist. There are quite a few begged questions in this phenomenon of measuring artistic greatness.
Adrian
P.S. Have just latched on to your blog. Your entry on print standards in Polish publishing provoked many memories and not a few chuckles of recognition: . I can’t work out how to subscribe to your bloodspot though …
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